Comments on: Should eSnipe let you know if another eSniper has outbid you? http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/ Build a better business. Build a better life. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:14:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bernhard http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-471 Bernhard Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:48:46 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-471 About dtzos idea ... if you do that, this may indeed lower winning prices, which may be nice for the winner. But think further. A seller offers a valuable item (his house, car, a 1 kg gold bar). You conspire by letting only the highest bidder place a bid who will win the item for $1. You could say, no one else was interested in his house or car, but a 1 kg gold bar will definetely find at least 2 people bidding near the current market price, because they can easily sell the bar with a profit. The law is not the same everywhere, but in Austria people are not bound to a contract if there has been a serious misunderstanding. In this case the seller offers the item under the assumption or agreement (maybe even a contract) that the one who outbids all the others get's it for the price exceeding the second highest bidder. If this assumption is invalid then the seller is not obliged to give the item to the winner for $1. Such a conspiracy may well be illegal, probably fraud. And if it is legal, and the seller can be forced by some laws to trade the gold bar for $1, sellers in these juristictions will stop using ebay, if the chance to become a victim of such a conspiracy becomes to big. Of course, ebay will take very aggressive legal actions to prevent such things. They earn a lot of money and they will not give up their business without fighting. Plus, a lot of people like to use ebay. Some of them will, too, fight for ebay to remain. Probably some of those who were kicked out of their houses or lost their car for $1. I wouldn't dare make a lot of people that angry. Bernhard About dtzos idea … if you do that, this may indeed lower winning prices, which may be nice for the winner.

But think further. A seller offers a valuable item (his house, car, a 1 kg gold bar). You conspire by letting only the highest bidder place a bid who will win the item for $1. You could say, no one else was interested in his house or car, but a 1 kg gold bar will definetely find at least 2 people bidding near the current market price, because they can easily sell the bar with a profit.

The law is not the same everywhere, but in Austria people are not bound to a contract if there has been a serious misunderstanding. In this case the seller offers the item under the assumption or agreement (maybe even a contract) that the one who outbids all the others get’s it for the price exceeding the second highest bidder. If this assumption is invalid then the seller is not obliged to give the item to the winner for $1.

Such a conspiracy may well be illegal, probably fraud. And if it is legal, and the seller can be forced by some laws to trade the gold bar for $1, sellers in these juristictions will stop using ebay, if the chance to become a victim of such a conspiracy becomes to big.

Of course, ebay will take very aggressive legal actions to prevent such things. They earn a lot of money and they will not give up their business without fighting. Plus, a lot of people like to use ebay. Some of them will, too, fight for ebay to remain. Probably some of those who were kicked out of their houses or lost their car for $1.

I wouldn’t dare make a lot of people that angry.

Bernhard

]]> By: mikie1 http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-317 mikie1 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:04:13 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-317 Another vote for what dtzo said. Just let us know AFTER the auction has ended we were outbid by another esnipe user. Otherwise it would be frustrating not to know why our bid didn't win, when it could be higher than the actual winning price. Another vote for what dtzo said. Just let us know AFTER the auction has ended we were outbid by another esnipe user. Otherwise it would be frustrating not to know why our bid didn’t win, when it could be higher than the actual winning price.

]]> By: Easy On Me http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Easy On Me Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:50:21 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-299 @anj, with you there. Response has been overwhelmingly in agreement with you. @anj, with you there. Response has been overwhelmingly in agreement with you.

]]> By: anj http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-282 anj Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:31:46 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-282 It's simple: Should eSnipe let you know if another eSniper has outbid you? No of course not. Why? Place your snipe and go take a walk. It’s simple:
Should eSnipe let you know if another eSniper has outbid you?

No of course not. Why? Place your snipe and go take a walk.

]]> By: Easy On Me http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-268 Easy On Me Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:51:05 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-268 @Mary Lou, you said it best. And keep the comments flowing. We love them. Cheers, Tom Campbell @Mary Lou, you said it best. And keep the comments flowing. We love them.

Cheers,

Tom Campbell

]]> By: Mary Lou Walbergh http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-263 Mary Lou Walbergh Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:53:20 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-263 Just discovered this page, and have left three comments so far! Excuse, please! But I just had to say that the best way to use eSnipe is to decide RIGHT AWAY what is the MOST you want to pay for an item, enter that bid on eSnipe, and then FORGET IT! Else you get involved in the ego thing, and pay too much. You had better know what is your TOP line, and stick to it. So telling you you've been outbid shouldn't change what you do in the least, because you should have already entered the most you'd pay. Mary Lou Just discovered this page, and have left three comments so far! Excuse, please! But I just had to say that the best way to use eSnipe is to decide RIGHT AWAY what is the MOST you want to pay for an item, enter that bid on eSnipe, and then FORGET IT!
Else you get involved in the ego thing, and pay too much. You had better know what is your TOP line, and stick to it. So telling you you’ve been outbid shouldn’t change what you do in the least, because you should have already entered the most you’d pay.
Mary Lou

]]> By: Easy On Me http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-250 Easy On Me Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:42:53 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-250 @stephen T: You're now preaching to the choir! Thanks. @stephen T: You’re now preaching to the choir! Thanks.

]]> By: Stephen T. http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-239 Stephen T. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:52 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-239 Gads, no! To reveal another eSniper's maximum bid would be contrary to the entire concept of eSnipe, to wit, name your maximum [sic] bid and then hope. Gads, no! To reveal another eSniper’s maximum bid would be contrary to the entire concept of eSnipe, to wit, name your maximum [sic] bid and then hope.

]]> By: Baylink http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-236 Baylink Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:20:46 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-236 I entirely believe that doing this would break the service, possibly completely... mostly for reasons that are well enumerated about, and most of which you'd likely already thought of. Leave well enough alone. :-) I entirely believe that doing this would break the service, possibly completely… mostly for reasons that are well enumerated about, and most of which you’d likely already thought of. Leave well enough alone. :-)

]]> By: Charles O http://easyonme.com/blog/esnipe/should-esnipe-let-you-know-if-another-esniper-has-outbid-you/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Charles O Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:13:13 +0000 http://easyonme.com/blog/?p=59#comment-210 The idea of sniping is that nobody knows you are the high bidder before the end of the auction. If eSnipe let someone know I had outbid them, it completely defeats the purpose. In fact, the only reasonable way to use eSnipe then would be to snipe it. This could lead to a new service called eSnipeSnipe that handles placing bids on eSnipe at the last second before the auction closes. The idea of sniping is that nobody knows you are the high bidder before the end of the auction. If eSnipe let someone know I had outbid them, it completely defeats the purpose. In fact, the only reasonable way to use eSnipe then would be to snipe it. This could lead to a new service called eSnipeSnipe that handles placing bids on eSnipe at the last second before the auction closes.

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